If in fact many people are being denied entry to Thailand visa exempt as has been reported, they must be denied upon their second visa exempt entry attempt, given the start date of the 60 day change was 15 July 24. I guess it is then safe to say, after the first 60 day visa exempt entry with 30 day extension, there is no guarantee of being allowed in visa exempt a second time.
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The conversation discusses the recent trend of individuals being denied entry into Thailand under the visa exemption rule. Several users share personal experiences, noting that while some have successfully entered multiple times using the exemption, others report being grilled or questioned at immigration. The discussion reflects on governmental efforts to control immigration and the potential scrutiny facing frequent visitors. Multiple posts suggest that despite the possibility of repeated entries, the discretion lies with the immigration officers.
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mind you after 35 years they do get to know the regulars like myself..
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Grandpappa **********
amazing thailand
Ian *********
simple apply for a on line visa for visit 2
John *****
I got quizzed in September having been in the UK 6 months, flew in again in October, nothing, moaned at again in December. Avoid female immigration imo
These things change with the wind. It will soon blow over & be forgotten by most. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Someone gets a bee in their bonnet & it's a short-lived crack down, next thing someone else does the opposite.
Peter *********
My holiday was broken for a death in the family after only 14 days , Iām hoping to go back to Thailand after 1 month in the U.K. to continue my vacation
Will I be allowed to get another visa free 60 day entry ?
Yes and the question will be asked are you still on a holiday if not get the correct visa to be here in Thailand the entry Thailand was not a visa it's permission to stay in Thailand for 60 days and then can add 30 days by paying 1,900 Baht after that you need a VIsa to stay
incorrect Craig. I know you mean well and I appreciate it but in reality you know very little but still take a bow trying to look important. It doesn't work for me but some may imagine u know what you're talking about. At the land border NO QUESTIONS ARE ASKED. I understand it's tough for you buddy. Would a diagram help you?
wow Liam. Very impressed by your "reliable sauce" bollocks lol. Yes if it's an encounter at Suvarnabhumi I'd agree. But at the land crossing to Cambodia "no questions are asked". Please ask for clarification if you struggle to understand this super simple statement. Some people here find it hard to understand simple things so I try to help as far as I can.
and Liam who your reliable source and hooker from Pattaya šššš
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Peter **********
they obviously now have an algorithm that checks time between successive visa exempt entries and quantity of entries per year.
Vincent **********
jusque lĆ alors que je pars 4 fois par an ,j'ai pas eu de problĆØme et je reviens dans 3 semaines pour 2 mois en ThaĆÆlande, mais par contre je ne prends jamais d'extension ni de sortie de territoire
there's an important difference between with and without a visa though: having a visa you're not supposed to be refused entry. It comes down to having been given entry permission by the respective country's MFA, which ought to have weighed in all the relevant factors available, e.g. also your entry history. Although an IO can technically refuse entry even to entrants with a visa, we must assume that they won't. Not having a visa means that whether or not you are good to enter is entirely determined by the IO, and that's where your history is then considered.
where did you get data and how did you validate the data so that itās scientifically credible. Often people report when they have been denied but not when they were just passing through. Most likely people are abusing the system
Ar *******
Friend of mine left 4 December after 60 day and 30 day extension, she is coming back on 20 January, do you think she might get hassle for return so quick from the immigration. She intends to 60 days and extend 30 days again. Her return flight booked for April.
she should be fineā¦ it is usually those who leave for just a day or two who get the side eyeā¦ but remember, each immigration officer is different š¤·š»āāļø
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Warren ******
Just get 6 month visa and extend every stay to 90 days and u get 9 months if u return the 3rd time 1 day short of 6 months
Nick ************
A friend of mine just crossed back into Thailand from Laos for the third time this year. His first entry was stamped 1 and his second 2. His 3rd entry was stamped 1 and he was told it was his first entry of 2025!
Incognia **********
So there is no multiple tourist entry anymore what can people do?
Since August I've entered 3 times using visa exemption i never extend due to work rotation. I've never had a problem but I was asked by the last immigration officer where I would be staying. I told him with my girlfriend first and then her family for New Year. He accepted this without any further questions, I even offered her address and phone number when he asked but he wasn't interested. I got the feeling he asked because he had to, not because he wanted to or even cared.
You should consider carrying an invitation letter from your GF and possibly her family every time you leave for work. If asked upon reentry you can easily provide. Years ago I would always go to KL for my Non-O visa application. I always needed to give them an invitation letter from my Thai wife.
it's something I've considered. To be honest I should really just sort out a proper visa and register myself at her home when I arrive. Its just further down the pecking order than sorting my sons uk passport and my girlfriends visa so they can come to the UK.
The problem these days with short work rotations is you are never in Thailand, or neighboring countries, long enough to get a visa. I had the same problem when I worked offshore. I was very happy when I hit 50. I then could go onto a retirement visa which was much easier to manage than a marriage visa. So many people live in Thailand that work offshore. I do not understand why Immigration cannot cater more to this group.
I was offshore until August of this year when I moved to
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rotation onshore in Libya to get more time in Thailand with my son. I feel like, and I am, abusing the visa exemption and tourist visa system but it's due to a lack of suitable alternatives. A problem with this is I'm asked about a visa in Libya everytime i leave and last time the guy didn't really believe me but didnt care enough to do any thing about it, i only need one who does care and im knackered. I discussed marriage, although very briefly, with my long term girlfriend but she doesn't really want to pay her rather large family the money they would be expecting so that removes that as an option for me. I'm hoping the multi entry non o becomes available online again soon and then I'll just jump through the required hoops for that.
I don't know your age so I don't know if you would qualify for Non-O retirement. Marriage may be your only option to get a Non-O. With the online system they now use, I believe there are no longer one year multiple entry Non-O visa's available. You apply for the first 90 day visa and then extend in Thailand. You may want to speak with a visa agent to see what alternatives you might have. All the best to you and Good Luck!
Thai government understands it is safe for their country to limit the foreigners. That is why Thailand is still safe now whereas other western governments failed to realise the consequences of stamping in excessing foreigners. And now It is too late . Those countries are getting taken over by aliens. Everything should be limited. Asian countries play smartš¤§
Peter *******
Best if you asked for a comparision of different companies - I use d these and save quite a bit of money :
No money->No honeyš¹š Apply real tourist or non-immigrant visaš
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This type of process is so typical here. They make the process easy so more people can more easily come here and spend there money. Now maybe they are seeing that control is being lost, so it's time to backtrack by now making things more difficult for visa exempt entries. But of course it's the tourists fault for not applying for proper visa. No loss of face for officials.
if they wanted people to apply for tourist visas they wouldnāt have made the visa exempt the same length at the tourist visa. The whole thing is a bit silly
itās normally 5-6 months you will get attention but a lot went on this year so who knows. I normally get a TR but they are handled and designed very poorly so it was an easy choice to go exempt.
why would you pay the money for a tourist visa when you can get a 60 day visa exempt for free?? The problem that the majority of these people have is, they donāt want to use a border bounce company to help them out. They all think theyāre different and theyāll be let in. Well, good luck with that.
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T ******
Thailand government is smart. They do not want Thailand to become next USA,UK and CANADA where illegals are on the verge of taking over the countries. Always play safeš¤¢
I donāt think so people from USA uk and Canada are coming to steal jobs from Thais and use there healthcare for free and get free social security and housing do you?
Galen ****************
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I'm not sure I understand your post. I've never worked in Thailand, only help my wife with her properties / businesses. I've always worked offshore outside of Thailand. I did not know, as a foreigner we could use free health care and housing in Thailand.
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Galen ****************
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I think you are correct. They are after tourist money so make it relatively easy for tourists. For long term retirees or members of a Thai family, it may become harder and harder. The tax law enforcement comes to mind when thinking about this.
Iām just depressingly amused that the same people upset with all the illegal immigration are also usually the climate change deniers. Theyāre going to be really upset when more and more climate refugees show up.
good work Sherlock or is it Karen. Educated in ca with at prestigious universities and we were taught how to ascertain fact from fiction and to embrace diversity and inclusion.
did that start recently? because i did the evisa online and they put a huge sticker in my passport
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Paul ********
Definately a lot more trickier at airports and some land borders now, and I've witnessed tourists who have only stayed a couple of months getting an intense grilling, about purpose of visit where their income is from etc.
Matt **********
the VISA stuff in this country is very complicated. And the VISA exempt is just as hard. I left for 4 months and came back to visit and nearly was denied. I had to plead with immigration, as my daughter was on a different flight and was about to visit for her first time. Furthermore, they shouldn't be upset at people living here. It only benefits the economy.
Yes, very complicated. I recently visited a local Immigration office in Isaan. Even the officials there looked quite tired of the entire situation. They simply said, there are too many different visas. I can't imagine them trying to figure it all out. I guess that is why standards may vary from office to office.
yeah. the government needs better policy writers. this stuff is so complicated and makes no sense.
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I went a little crazy for a bit and I use to fly out of Australia on a Sunday and back on a Thursday to work weekends then back out every week for 9 weeks and never an issue. I had more issues getting back into Australia with them questioning my travels
yep it seems Aussie immigration are quick to get suspicious ...I did a few trips then they wanted to go thru my phone ..iPad. Wanted password checked my social media !!
itās so woke etc and to be fair I am that falang that got his Thai girlfriend pregnant and I flew back all the time to try and keep the crazy from drinking etc lol. Almost 12 years later and i have been a single dad to my awesome boy since he was 11 months old and we are both moving there early Jan for a year for him to learn the culture etc all be it at a international school hahahaha
In Australia now as soon as your kid turns 12 his medical records are not available to his parents... So imagine he's at school and they say he has a learning disorder and they prescribe ritilin and he's taking it warping his mindset and the peer pressure him into unsurety about his gender and next minute at aged 14 he's on hormone replacement medication and you as a parent have no clue and you then head to the Dr's and the School and they both ring the cops on you as his medical records are none of your business.... Sounds absurd but it's taking place in Australian schools. If your kids over the age of 12.. Take him to the Dr's and pay for them and watch medicare send the medicare rebate to the kids bank account and not yours...
same situation..we entered 2nd time for 60 day, got pulled aside and told to get dtv or whatever..signed a paper, asked hubby to show all his money in the bank,..so now we are waiting for my dtv as dependent here hcmc , gave us only 13 days Vietnam evisa..not enough time to process both..so now I have to keep fingers crossed to get it by Monday or I will be stucked in Bkk unless they allow me to go in as visa exempt or if my dtv arrives by the time we land..
Where are you seeing that āmanyā people are being denied entry? Iāve been in Thailand for almost three years straight with a mix of visa exempts and non-o visas. I started off with the non-o visas and have been using the exempt route since.
Iāve also been doing the 30 day and the 60 day extensions as well. So, Iām not sure where youāre getting this information from.
it is true,it happened to my husband and I,we had 60 then got 30,we went to Myanmar to get 60 days, every thing looked good I was in front I got 60 days passport stamped my husband was next in line,and the officer looked at home and said you had 90 days you have to go,he said but you just gave my wife 60 days,and the people I don't of her also had 90 days then different officers came and he got the 60 days.,So yes people are getting denied.
I read a post and the comments in the Thai Visa Advice - Q&A last night. A Moderator posted this comment that I copied & posted below:
"Thai Immigration Officers are becoming more strict on questioning those who have been in Thailand using back to back visa exempt entry plus extensions.
Over 1,000 people at BKK Suvarnabhumi Airport Bangkok and DMG Don Mueang airport Bangkok were denied entry in the recent week. And returned to their initial flight departure city at travelers expense.
Mostly for multiple uses of the visa exempt entry with extensions.
Suggest you use a land border crossing if you try to get a second visa exempt entry. And use an experienced border run service company to take you with same day return.
They PRE-ARRANGE your exit and reentry to get the New 60 day STAMP as Visa Exempt Entry."
I was told I had to apply for an O Visa on my last entry and told that I had to leave the country for 60 days. That was in November. I am now back in the UK.
what doesnāt sound realistic to you? Do you need to see my passport?? Do you think I gain anything by lying to you about my entries the past three years? Use the proper channels and you will be fine. Itās the cheap ones who think they can do it themselves that have the problems.
then they need to use the proper companies to get them back into the country.
Itās not something new, trying to fleece the system with trying to stay here long term without the proper visa.
Itās well known, or common knowledge that these days youāre not going to be staying here long term like pre covid days.
Iāll say this again, Iāve been here for three years mostly using the visa exempt route. Iāve never been denied an extension, both 30 day and 60 day.
Yes, i have a 90 days visa bi-lateral agreement and use it well , never was denied second one in a year ; probably people are not planning their stay as should !
exactly!! These companies exist for a reason. Pay the 4Kąøæ and donāt worry about a thing. I personally use them and have yet to run into any problems.
Itās mostly the airport entries that have the problems.
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Only comments by some in this group. That's all. I haven't heard anything more elsewhere. I've been on Non-o for about 20 years. The 10 years before this I was on a mixture of visa exempt and Non-o. Me also, never an issue.
Michael *******
Spread a little happiness around - never fails, until it does and price goes upā¦..
I would stop listening to those comments as it will never pertain to you.
Itās always up to the immigration officer in front of you at the time you arrive.
If you plan on staying here on visa exempt stamps, I would look into using a border bounce company. They will give you the best information as to you being able to bounce out and back.
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Michael ********
Nothing is guaranteed except death and taxes
Bart **************
There is no guarantee, but a second entry is relatively safe even if the first is maxed out.
Ning ******
you can go out and in again with a visa ran service.
Roberto *********
Never any guarantee with visa exempt. It really comes down to if the immigration officer dealing with you considers you are trying to live in Thailand using visa-exempt entries
wrong ! Depends on. It's correct at Bkk Suvarnabhumi yes. But visa exempt 60 day is GUARANTEED at Cambodia border crossing if an agent is used. It seems Thailand has two Immigration Authorities. Each has its own policy.
who said I'm paying an agent for something free to me? Read more carefully. The Thai agent pisses in the same pot as the official issuing the visa exemptions. We are purely customers paying fees to a local business which processes 100s of foreigners weekly. The agent facilitates the desired outcome. If they didn't they'd get no more customers. Not so complicated ?
When you will think just a very little bit, you can only come to the conclusion that the officer gets money to ignore the fact you should not get visa exempt. You pay the fees to a local business, that is true, but you know the rules, and you pay far to much just for the trip.
define ānormal reasonable standards ā. We're in Thailand yesļ¼ Thai agents market visa,services. If they're operating illegally it's the Thai authorities who are responsible to investigate not the passing tourist. If the agent tells me it's āguaranteedā I take it at face value. But maybe you know bestļ¼
Robert ***********
The "passing tourist" is not the one who lives in Thailand doing repetitive border jumps. SMH
why youāre even trying to argue such a stupid point when everyone, including you, knows how and why it works is hilarious, grow up
Even talking about illegalities and investigations is as dumb as it gets, who knows maybe they will start enforcing that prostitution is illegal rightš
it's guaranteed if agent says it's guaranteed simple. I wouldn't leave my personal belongings in a hotel room and risk losing them by being denied access. So I'd take my bags if it wasn't guaranteed
All I'm saying is don't pretend for one moment that you're unaware a bribe is being paid. If you know how Thailand operates you would be well aware that a foreigner will never come off better than a Thai when things go belly-up. If you have to live in Thailand in perpetual visa exempt entries, you're not the sharpest knife in the kitchen drawer anyway