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What is the best health insurance for a 79-year-old on a Non-O Retirement Visa in Thailand?

Feb 16, 2025
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Raki ********
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Hello everyone, I would like to ask what health insurance that is best to get for Non O Retirement visa. I am inquiring on behalf of my mother and she is already 79 y/o. Thank you in advance.
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The discussion reveals that for a Non-O Retirement visa in Thailand, there is no mandatory health insurance requirement. However, healthcare for a 79-year-old can be challenging, as it is difficult to find affordable health insurance for seniors. Many community members suggest talking openly with the mother about her health and potential costs. Utilizing government hospitals is recommended as they are more affordable, but might not offer the same level of care as private hospitals. Suggestions also include seeking an insurance broker for potential options and considering the emotional aspect of care by living with family.
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Tipanan ********
It’s will be very difficult to get insure for 79 years of age and the high age is 74 can get insure but it’s very expensive.🙏
Stephen *********
most companies don't take new applications after 75 years old
Beverley *******
Try Nomad Insurance (Safety Wing). It does insure older people. It is American based I think. It is not cheap. I bought it for Thailand. I am an Australian aged 67. It was about $300.00 aud a month.
Raki ********
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@Beverley ******
thank you for this info.
Peter *******
I know of someone aged 77 who bought their health insurance from AA Ins - quite painlessly, check them out
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George *******
@Peter ******
And we're charged extortionate for the policy with strings attached no doubt.
Andreas *********
Mit 79 Jahren ? Realistisch geht hier gar nicht mehr.
Robby ************
@And****
I got with 76
Robby ************
Wr Iife
Raki ********
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@Robby ***********
may I please know which insurance company?
Vinson *******
@Robby ***********
could you share some details or is this just a tease
Robby ************
no tease
Vinson *******
@Robby ***********
but no useful information , even after I asked , so what good is your post!
Mark ******
I agree on finding a local insurance broker, they will give you options (if any) for your mother and costs. Self-pay, at either a Government hospital (much less expensive) or an international hospital is the other primary option. Or, if she can travel, even returning home for a procedure could be an option.
Ric ******
Those health insurances available for visitors to Thailand are businesses, not charities.

A few people have already pointed it out: it will be near-impossible to start a policy at 79, and if you find one, it will be horrendously expensive.

So your best bet is to have a talk with your mom about her current state of health and how she feels about something happening and having to pay a lot of money herself or getting not the best possible healthcare.

Many reasonable people would prefer to live 4 more years with family and die happy than to suffer 8 years in loneliness with some amazing free healthcare system in their home country.
Joseph *******
@Ric *****
Who says the care’s not the best? I had a total laminectomy (major back surgery) with eight pedicular titanium screws in 2006 at Udon General Hospital for about 130k baht, which by today’s FX is less than $4k. Costly? Nine months after the surgery, my wife & I walked from Udon Thani to Nong Khai, about a 33-mile trek. I even returned to jogging in my late 60s. Now, if you’re rich, Bumrungrad Hospital in Bangkok is one of the best in the world, though by “rich” I’m speaking relative to Thai expectations (i.e., still significantly cheaper than the U.S.).
Peter **********
@Joseph ******
Which is why he wrote “talk to her” and “many people”… I’m sure you can read that. 😉
Ric ******
It's funny how we peck at each other instead of focusing on the areas we agree.

I also recommend prioritising living with family over health insurance worries.

Our differences lie in the cost that is to be expected. Geratric care, if taken seriously is very expensive, in any country. Imagine
@Ra**
has to sell her car to pay for some cardiac procedure or a hip replacement. I think it's stupid to do that, because she has her life ahead of her and if selling the car means she has to ride a motorcycle which is way more deadly, nobody wins.

You may be correct that government hospitals may not even suggest certain procedures for a 79 year old patient. But that doesn't mean they could not be performed in a state of the art private hospital with a reasonable chance of prolonging life a few months or even years.

That's why I recommend having a sincere conversation with your mom before she comes here without insurance, not to feel guilty about a potential lack of funds for some possibly life-prolonging treatment later on.
Ric ******
You cannot use 2006's prices with today's exchange rate and assume that's what it's going to cost now.

It'll probably go for at around 10k USD, assuming no complications - which could easily happen if your patient is 79. For some people 10k is already "a lot of money". So maybe she could only afford injections against the pain or some other less expensive treatment and be okay with that.

I did not make a specific statement about thai healthcare or thai public hospitals. It's just common sense that certain health procedures don't come for cheap in Thailand. If you don't have insurance or are prepared to pay out of pocket, you should be aware that you won't get the best possible healthcare.
Joseph *******
@Ric *****
Look, Ric, you’re trying to sound like you know a lot when you don’t really know much. Thai prices don’t vary that much from semi-decade to semi-decade, & mostly depend on on the fx rate. It was close to 40 baht per U.S. dollar when I had my surgery.

“I did not make a specific statement about Thai healthcare.” Umm, yes you did. You wrote, “…about how she feels about something happening and having to pay a lot of money herself or not getting the best possible healthcare.” There is a definite negative insinuation there, whether you meant it or not.

Bottom line, Ric, is that coming to Thailand when you’re old & possibly ill may be the best decision she’ll make for the rest of her life, especially considering she has a son ready & willing to take care of her.
Ric ******
@Joseph ******
sorry, what do you know? I checked prices in Bangkok private hospitals last November and some stuff was twice as expensive as in my home country, highly detailed lab work for example. Thai prices in restaurants have gone up as well, or are they still what they were 10 years ago?
Joseph *******
@Ric *****
You “checked prices,” sure. I’m sure you’re correct if you’re talking about countries with universal health care. For Americans, however, there’s no comparison: Thai healthcare rules. Labs in Thailand are fairly inexpensive unless your bloodwork is ordered through a hospital. Btw, my wife & I can still buy dinner for about 100 baht at local markets.
Raki ********
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@Ric *****
yes, thank you.
Phil ******
@Raki *******
extremely costly. Public hospital has reasonable care.

I recommend finding an agent in your area.

Here's just one.

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Joseph *******
@Phil *****
Why does she need an agent?
Phil ******
@Joseph ******
agents search for the best plan ovwr many insurance companies so no individual insurance company. I recommended a public hospital as King Chulalongkorn Memorial Hospital Friends bought me back from the dead. This hospital is the largest here in Thailand. I am self insured as have a terminal lung desease.
Joseph *******
@Phil *****
Sorry for your predicament, Phil. Are you in much pain? I’ve been told the cancer centers don’t use the really strong pain meds used in the U.S.

Is King Chulalongkorn Memorial larger than Bumrungrad?

Re agents, we both know insurance payouts are a gamble in Thailand, especially in the OP’s mother’s case since she is 79. Whatever she can find, my bet would be it’s so expensive she’d be better off saving her money & seek care at her local amphoe hospital. In 2006 I underwent major back surgery at Udon Thani General Hospital for a total of about 130k baht. Great care & extremely affordable price.
Phil ******
@Joseph ******
it wasn't cancer. But a blood clot.

Not taking painkillers.

Yes King Chula is the largest.hospital in Thailand and is attached to the Uni. Also run by the Red Cross.

Absolutely agree that's why I suggested an agent. Yes self funded probably the most cost effective

Great price too.

I might add that couldn't get insurance here or in my home country due to lung desease
Pertti *************
Just use goverment hospitals if something happens🙏
Scott *********
She should stay in her country
Frangipani *******
@Scott ********
Apply for a Non O Visa for her on your home country. Then extend after 3 months for a 12 month extension in Thailand 🇹🇭.

And then extend again…
Raki ********
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Raki ********
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@Scott ********
I wish but she is alone back home. She is a widow and Im her only child. I happen to marry a Thai that is why I want to bring her here too.
Scott *********
@Raki *******
bring thia to your country
Raki ********
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@Scott ********
that is not an option at the moment.
Paul ********
You will find it extremely difficult if not impossible to find new policy health insurance for a 79yo.

Come over on a 60 day waiver and then pursue a Non Immigrant O visa in Thailand, no mandatory health insurance.
Raki ********
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@Paul *******
Thank you. This is new information to me. So my mother can just come here for 60day tourist visa and then apply Non O retirement visa here?
Tony **********
@Raki *******
much easier to apply for non-o in your home country. There are some catch 22's doing it I in country forcing you to use an agent and then being at their mercy for future extensions....

Most likely will not be able to get insurance in Thailand for a 79yr old. If you can find it, it will be exhorbently expensive.

If your intention is NOT for her to stay long term then best to get travel insurance from your home country and then arrive for 60 day visa exempt. You can extend it another 30 days when you're heading the end of your 60.
Willem ****
For a Non immigrant O a medical insurance is not required. But its always recommended to have a good insurance.
Raki ********
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@Willem ***
Thank you and yes I agree. I am just not familiar with insurance yet here.
Kool *******
@Raki *******
at 79 years old there are no insurance companies in Thailand that will insure her. Get her insurance before you come here, if you can find any company that will insure her.
Jan ******************
If you apply for a regular Non O visa based on retirement there’s no MANDATORY health insurance requirement. Only for the one year Non O-A visa.
Janin ******
@Jan *****************
, not a good advise! Always, always take a good health insurance , specially at that age (any age)
Peter **********
@Janin *****
It will be a nice daytime job trying to find new health insurance at that age…
Janin ******
@Peter *********
I agree, there are some but costly because of the age.
George *******
@Janin *****
Once you get past eighty years, if your healthy and lucky enough to get to that age, if you got seriously ill with say cancer or CardioVascular disease no amount of medical intervention is going to be much use, only prolong your suffering. Live happy and die happy.
Jan ******************
@Janin *****
Im not giving any advice, just explaining the formal requirements and difference for two visa types.
Paul ********
@Janin *****
Quite right. The two are often confused in this group - what is mandatory for immigration purposes vs what is a sensible and responsible way to cover yourself in a foreign country.

Likewise, the antivax brigade are happy to tell you that no vaccines are required ….
Paul *********
@Paul *******
they aren't
Raki ********
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@Jan *****************
Thank you. I am quite confuse with Non O and Non O-A. My purpose is just to bring my mother here for longer period, so Non O is just fine right?
Jan ******************
@Raki *******
What’s your mother’s nationality and passport nation?
Raki ********
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@Jan *****************
we are from the Philippines.
Jan ******************
@Raki *******
Ok, you can just come on a 60 days visa exemption without any visa and do a 30 extension at your local immigration, totally 90 days. If you want a further stay you can 1) Get a landborder transport company to escorts you over one border and back to get a new 60 days visa exemption which also can be extended with additional 30 days 2) Apply for a Non O visa in country if you can manage to open a bank accounts through an agent and put 800K baht in a Thai bank. 3) Alternatively you can apply for a 90 days Non O visa through the embassy in Philippines and apply for one year extension of stay in Thailand with 800K baht in a Thai bank.
Raki ********
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@Jan *****************
thank you for sharing. Will look into these options.
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