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Are expats on a DTV Visa in Thailand liable for tax if they stay over 10 months?

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Feb 28, 2025

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Are we liable to pay tax or file return if we live in Thailand more than 10 months with DTV Visa and a Visa run after every 160 days in one year? If so what percentage for nomads?

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If you live in Thailand for more than 180 days in a calendar year, you become a tax resident and could be liable to pay taxes on any income remitted to Thailand. However, tax obligations depend on individual circumstances, including the source of income and whether a double taxation agreement exists with your home country. For those on a DTV visa, complications arise, such as restrictions on opening Thai bank accounts, which may limit the requirement to report taxes. It is advisable to consult a tax professional for personalized guidance.

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Mohammed ****

I could write the correct answer for you here since my better half is a tax lawyer at the Revenue Department, but then Toni from Toronto or someone else will come along and claim they know better and that what the Revenue Department says is complete nonsense. Ask the tax office directly; otherwise, you’ll only get dangerously incomplete information from this group. But what do you expect from a Facebook group?

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Sefton ********

180 days in a calendar year makes you a tax resident.

If you file, and if that filing generates a liability is much more complex.

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Al**

I wish it was more straightforward. For example say someone doesn't work at all but also doesn't receive any retirement or pension, if they have a bank in the US and withdraw money at an ATM AND stay past 6 months in a calendar year. Do they have to pay taxes???

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Lewey ************

no. Only revenue that is remitted to a thai bank account is subject to tax if you stayed at least 180 days in a calendar year.

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Sefton ********

@Lewey ***********

not true legally, though it comes down to enforcement.

Revenue have said that card spending is 'remittance'.

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@Sefton *******

could you provide some official source for this? I wasn't able to find anything

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Andy ************

@Lewey ***********

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@Lewey ***********

Carl Turner youtube channel.. Interview with Senior Revenue inspector and also the Panel Q&A with the same guy and Ex snr revenue who is now a professor of the subject teaching future staff.

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Lewey ************

I'll also add that there isn't any clarification coming from the authorities about this. It all comes from third party websites, and as I said there doesn't seem to be a clear consensus. Not saying you're wrong, you probably are, but it's no wonder people would get confused when even the experts don't necessarily agree on this.

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Lewey ************

Thanks. It seems it's split

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on experts who say it counts as "remittance" and those who say it doesn't. I even saw a guy that said he asked at a tax office in Bangkok and they told him it doesn't count. Anyway as you said it's hard to enforce because there's no way for the authorities to verify what is and isn't foreign revenue. And you would most likely be covered by an agreement between Thailand and your home country anyway.

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@Lewey ***********

Ok thanks that makes sense. However people always say that even if you have a foreign bank and withdraw from an ATM there, you have to pay taxes. It doesn't make sense, how would they even track it? Or why would that money be taxable.

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Travelling ********

Since you are not even able to open a bank account, how are they going to check?

They have no way of knowing how much you made.

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Joseph *********

You should ask a tax agent in Thailand, not foreigners. They are knowledgeable professionals

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Dnatjugweme ************

What percentage for nomads? 😂 I wish tax rules were that simple.

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Anonymous ******************

Yes, on remitted money to Thailand and depending on treaties. For those who already have Thai bank accounts or are trying to open one, banks are now starting to request tax numbers; something many didn't believe would happen but is now starting to be a reality.

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Lewey ************

If you don't remit revenue from outside to a Thai bank account, you don't have to pay any tax. DTV doesn't even really allow you to open a Thai bank account so you're good.

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Sefton ********

@Lewey ***********

card spending is a remittance.

How are you living here without using money ?

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Elías ********

@Lewey ***********

yes, except that there's some (many, actually) DTVers with bank accounts as either they managed to open it somehow, or they haved since years ago when they either had other type of visas or tourists were easily allowed to open an account.

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Lewey ************

Yeah but that's a very specific case. Anyway to me the tradeoff is worth it: you just have to avoid remitting money into thailand and so you don't have to pay tax.

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@Lewey ***********

I opened one on a study visa by just walking into a bank with a residence confirmation

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ORIGINAL POSTER

Thx everyone for answering me for example I want to file return then what is the process to obtain TIN for Thailand revenue to ensure compliance and timely tax filings? And what is the date to file returns?

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Sefton ********

consult Carl turner with a 15 minute free consultation.

Filing due end of March I think

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Andrew *****************

If you reside in Thailand greater than 179 days you are liable for income tax for the year on monies brought into Thailand, however there may be a double taxation treaty with the country you earn the money in.

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@Felipe ********

every credit card transaction and ATM withdrawal is remitting money....

So it gets really ridiculous

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Jonas *************

@Felipe ********

you do ATM cordless transaction with cash in Thailand?

Using crypto? How do you do that?

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@Felipe ********

yes

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Felipe *********

@Andrew ****************

that's the thing, if you don't have a Thai account, technically you are not bringing any money into Thailand, so that's the way.

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Sean *******

No.

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Dawid **********

After 180 days in the country, you automatically become a tax resident.

But what most people are getting confused about - being a tax resident and having to pay taxes (or even registering for a tax ID) are 2 separate concerns. No blanket rule, and each case is completely different.

If you are a tax resident (180 days rule) and you remit any money to the country as a farang - you should always ask a tax lawyer if you should pay anything.

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@Dawid *********

it's so undefined that you could even the whole remittance idea have to declare every credit card transaction you do from abroad because that is remitting money.....

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Dawid **********

@Jonas ************

no, you can't. When you're using a credit card - you're not remitting anything, in fact you're only creating a debt in the bank of origin (usually an offshore country). In no circumstances this can be interpreted as remittance to Thailand.

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Correct it is not so straight forward. There is 1) Tax Residency 2) Assesssble income 3) Taxes payable on assessable income. Throw in Double Taxation Treaties and tax Residency in other domains it can be complicated. Most DTV holders are not likely to owe much Thai Tax even if a Thai Tax Resident unless remitting a lot of untaxed income into Thailand

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Dawid **********

Exactly on point. On top of that - if you're an offshore business owner (in relation to Thailand), then you have another layer of law to consider.

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John **********

If you spend 180 days or more inside Thailand in a calendar year you automatically become tax resident. What tax you have to pay varies depending on your particular circumstances

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@John *********

and how do we find put more? Who do we declare things to?

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Dany ********

maybe start with getting a TIN from the RD…

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John **********

as I've no idea where you are from its impossible to give any helpful information. There are 2 places to look. If your income is from a country with a dual taxation with Thailand you look there. The next place to look is the Thai Revenue Department who you would also declare any assessable income to.

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Andy ************

Depends on your individual circumstances. There's no blanket rule

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Toni *******

Yes, for the money you bring to thailand. Check if your country has double tax agreement. Theres also some deductions that can be made.

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