I am looking for some information please. I will have around 200,000GBP when I move to Thailand. Can anyone give me an idea of the best rate of interest I can get from a bank. TIA.
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The community discusses the best banking options for an expat planning to move to Thailand with approximately £200,000. Many responses suggest not to keep large sums in Thai banks due to poor interest rates (often less than 2%) and limited insurance coverage (up to 1 million baht). Instead, they recommend keeping the funds in UK banks where better interest rates (around 4-5% for fixed accounts) can be found and utilizing online banking services for currency exchange. Concerns about the difficulty of transferring large amounts back to the UK and the risks of currency devaluation in Thailand are also mentioned. Suggestions include investing in UK properties, bonds, mutual funds, or gold, as well as using services like Wise or Revolut for transferring money efficiently.
well if you think about it they have your money in their bank and they use that money to lend to people and this is one of the perks of the bank. So when I go on holiday I use my phone to pay for most things and they charge gets passed onto the retailer not me
rate normally not the same, Wise now 35.0039 THB for EUR 1, Revolut 34.81 THB for EUR 1, so the amount and fees decide which is cheapest. Transfer with Revolut gave me one time a charge at receiver side, this never happened me with wise.
Gold and silver I agree, bitcoin is just speculating.
You pay for bitcoin because you believe others will pay more for it later.
In itself it has no value, just like normal valuta, but at least normal valuta still have a country saying it has value for what that promise is worth.
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Lim ***********
Don't leave it in the bank. Buy physical gold. When we first arrived in Thailand more than 2 yrs ago, it was THB 28,000/bhat gold, today it's THB 46,600/bhat gold. 1 Bhat gold is 15.2g.
Andy ******
Never put 8.4 million baht in one bank in Thailand,interest is less than 1.5% ,and most banks only insure your money up to 1 million baht ,keep it in UK bank or invest it and take small lump sums at 6 month periods to transfer into a Thai bank
Robin ******
A lot of european Banks pay close to or just over 3% and with 100k insured
We have a platform called raisin where you can bank hop.
I would not put it on a bank, but if you do there are better options then a thai bank
Trofim ********
Shares in dingy companies in France are doing well im told
Alan ******
Going by the comments Kirk, it appears the answer is don't place all that money in Thailand and what's more, they are right.
Tyler *******
Why would you advertise how much money you have 🤦🏻♂️
Consult a financial advisor if you care about the best returns on your investment. Sitting in a bank account is not it.
Lou **************
Invest some into my new project has a pretty great return better than any bank 🙌
Robert ********
Stocks. And because you have to ask:
Buy MSCI world ETF for 150k and only the rest in bank for emergencies.
And: open your broker account before moving! It’s way easier to prove your residence.
Peter *********
All gone soon with ladies soi 6 lol 😆
David ******
Lol.
You won't have it long if u change it to Thai bht.
why? It’s a far stronger currency that anything you’ll find in the west right now
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Mikki ***********
Please include age, health , lifestyle etc to give us a better idea. For example, I will be 60 , good health (so far lol) and live a simple lifestyle ...follow this guy. He's pretty good.
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Martin *********
If your getting such a fantastic rate in Thailand compared with the u.k there's usually a reason
Mark *******
F all
Dennis ************
Close to 0% and they may block your account
John **********
Put it into gold and silver,if you buy from say bullion for gold they will keep it for you,then when you need some money sell some back to them.Gold went up by 30% last year and it isn't finished yet
Randy ******
Use your money and invest in a WATER BUFFALO Business. Hugely used , breaks down a lot, and needs replacement every two years. Customers are mostly farangs and highly GULLIBLE
Russ ********
High rates right now on Russian State bonds 🤣
Paul ********
Mmm..are you using yr actual name?
Ivan ***********
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MSCI World/MSCI Emerging Markets
Leroy *******
I have a yellow bank account u can put it in.
John ********
🤣🤣🤣 A fool and his money in Thailand
Peter *****************
If you have a Thai wife is better don't let her know as insurance.Street wife dude
Brian ********
Leave your £200,000 in a few UK banks, try and put £85,000 in each different bank and your money will be protected by the Financial services
Tin **********
Put it in stocks
Mick ********
Here an idea split it and open two types of isa 20,000 in each at 6% to start with Don't tell them your going to live abroad it just makes things confusing At the moment a 1 year isa will pay better than a 2 year fixed rate
And for the rest Well I'm a Nigerian prince and.......
Will ******
If you're here for more than 180 days you'll get massively taxed if you can't prove you paid tax on it already in uk
Banks in Thailand are like everywhere in the world, interested in having good stable custormers, that have a permanent address, a steady easy traceable income, and use the account all year round.
That is why the banks are reluctant to give accounts to people on short time ( read: tourist ) visas, and who only spend part of the year in Thailand.
Don’t expect to get a residence certificat, until you have stayed at a permanent adress in at least 3 month, since that is what the residence certificat should confirm.
Furthermore the added attention on whitewashing of money, is an added burden on the banks, so reluctant depositing large amounts isn’t a guaranteed way to open an account.
The value of a resident certificat, had gone down, since Immigration Officers are giving them to people that are not on a longterm visa, or have stayed severel months at 1 adress in Thailand, so even if it is a formal requirement, the bank make up their own assesment of the stability of the want-to-be customer.
Ron ********
I use Santander internasjonale, bind for 6months and get 5,8%
Gregory ***********
Buy gold. It appreciated 27% in 2024.
Rory *********
Only transfer what need because of new tax laws
Danny *******
Throw in investments that are low risk above 5 % per year and then remit what you need to Thailand when you need it
Joe *********
Keep it in your country. You will get a better return and send money when needed to thailand.
Patrick ********
My money most of it is in a UK bond paying 4.8% no way I could earn that in my Bangkok bank account
Poul **********
Think right now the exchange rate is not very good, now may not be best time to transfer. My bank , Kbank, also charges withholding tax on the interest
Withholding tax can, under circumstances, be reclaimed when filing annual income tax, provided you are tax resident.
Obviously that depends on the tax rate threshold that would apply to you.
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Alberto ************
Invest in stocks which pay dividends.
you can get from 10% to 20% with low taxes, which could be enough for a living in Thailand
Peter **********
I would distribute. Never keep such amounts in a single bank. This because of the limited guarantees when the bank collapses.
Don’t let people scare you about Thai banks. The big economic collapse in 2008 started in USA, not Thailand.
I moved my funds in equal shares to Bangkok Bank, Kasikorn Bank and SCB, but I also kept large funds in Netherlands. These three bank allow international transfers above 50,000 baht. Bangkok Bank can provide you with a foreign currency account in case you don’t want to convert right now.
Netherlands has a tax charge on bank balances which Thailand doesn’t have - That was one of my motivators to move part of it to Thailand. The other motivator is that the baht is expected to rise to only 33.5 baht per euro (currently around 35, coming from 39 in July 2024).
If you decide to keep anything in a foreign bank then make sure that you can demonstrate having the amount in that bank at year end before becoming tax resident in Thailand.
Thai Banks don’t give any realistic interest. I believe expats get max 2% or something alike in the first few years. There are a number of profitable investments with tax benefits, but I haven’t yet done much research into them yet so I can’t suggest which to choose.
SJ *******
Dont move more then you need to the Thai policial system and hence the ecomony is fragile and can change very quickly.
Bill ********
Just pay a UK financial planner for proper advice.
best advise so far—all these unqualified financial advisors giving bad advise— each individual has their own set of requirements and risk appetite—a proper FNA needs to be done for you —i see no on death or tax been discussed even🙈🙈🙈
Do not bring it into Thailand... Get into something like mutual funds or similar and take a monthly income... Some of mutal funds currently are yielding 10% to 14% pa
you could have YOUR best time, you couldn't have mine. There is a massive difference budget boy. 2 grand for a month? Are you living in the bushes under the Skytrain in the middle of the road?? My apartment will be more than that ffs 😏
a beer a day? Wow you really know how to tear it up!! Let me guess, you love Khao San Road and your luggage takes the form of a hobo rucksack? I'll be staying in a luxury condo with the required amenities, roughing it on a mosquito infested beach is vastly overrated.
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Bob **********
You’ll be lucky to get 1.5% invest in your own country and not knowing how old you are you’ll need that money working for you 200K is really not enough
Kenny *****
Transfer and exchange as you need.
Nicolas *********
Get a Thai partner and invest in her buisness.
Paul *******
No interest leave it in uk bank
Scott *********
After 6 months with thia woman you will be broke
David ********
Thai banks don’t generate much interest. I’m not sure about UK banks, but I leave mine in my Australian bank and get about 5 percent
Barry ********
Put your money into thai bank and perhaps on day the Thai government decided to freeze all foreign investments. You have lost your money
never is a long time .Sam way there would never be a military couple in Thailand or there is no prostitution in walking street according to the Thai police.
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Terrence ***********
You’ll face a currency devaluation risk in a THB account.
true enough, but with an interest rate shock in the US, caused by tariff induced inflation, will mean a much worse scenario for EM currencies than the GBP. But, yes this is all speculation, no one knows for sure.
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Jim ********
Leave it in the UK 100%
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Seems as thou most people think the same here. Keep it in your bank back home. Sit down. Put a budget together of how much Thai Baht you will need each month. Plus an extra 10% say. For the rainy season. With the bulk of your £200,000. Buy a property .in UK. Get your self a tenant into it. Let a letting agency take care of it for you. And then maybe draw between £750 and a grand in income each month.
With that £750 rent pm you need to factor in 20% - 30% for agency fees, voids and maintenance. Annually you will need to pay self assessment tax on any earnings above the annual allowance of £12,500 if there is additional income generated outside of this rental.
True figure is around £525 - £600 p/m before any tax owed, if any.
Also, buying for cash is not the most profitable way to purchase a property. Using the £200k for deposits and refurbishments to then leverage 6 months later via a BTL mortgage can allow multiple purchases and therefore higher rental income. This way that £200k can be turned into £3k to £5k pm if done properly.
Paul ********
I've had an agent for 9%, but it was mates rates in the sticks.
what are you talking about? I said for him to talk to a financial advisor and let them invest his 200k. Why are you showing me the pound to baht chart?
If you can't figure it out, it's worse than i thought. If you had taken your absolute shite advice, you would be down 16% on exchange alone by keeping it the UK. Does that sound smart to you? Me neither. Is basic financial literacy not taught anywhere these days?
Jesus, no one leaves 200k in the bank. I told him to talk to a financial advisor and have them invest his money for him. This way he can get 8-10% a year from the 200k so he can live off of it. Just FYI, I manage money for a living. Financial literacy is my specialty.
Jesus, nobody in their right mind keeps all their investments in GBP.
And just FYI you seem to not be super adept at it, as you failed to grasp that very simple graph and its implications for keeping money in the UK. Or any single currency. But hey, that doesn’t help get you clients does it? Financial literacy clearly isn’t your specialty. Torching clients 2% or so with mutual fund sales is more likely your speciality. The best reason to talk to a financial advisor is if you have come to hate retaining your own money. As you know, that 8-10% you allude to here, is AFTER the advisor skims their share. And if the client loses $$, the ‘advisor’ still wins.
it seems as it is you who swallowed the kool aid. I don’t need to get paid. You cannot separate your need for clients from good, sound financial advice. And admitting simple mistakes seems challenging for you. Best of luck ‘advising’ or should we just call it what it is…. Sales.
I have zero idea what are you talking. Did you lose all your money or were you scammed? I told him to talk to someone to manage his money and you got butt hurt.
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If it's earnings it will be taxed at a high % for that much transferred in one go. Transfer in small amts each year
get a bank account with Bangkok Bank, and do a SWIFT transfer bringing it all in at once. Then you have the FET when you want to take it out of Thailand. Then with it here Bangkok Bank has some good low risk mutual fund options to invest in.
Then u have to prove they are all savings before 31 Dec 2023. Any mixing with earnings or interest after that date meabs it will be assessable
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Tom ********
You can not bring that much money with you, you will need a Thai Bank account and then do a transfer and you will also need proof of where the funds came from.
Ok well if you use an International money transfer Company such as Key Currency for example then you will be able to decide when they send your funds so you can wait for a favorable exchange rate, and they will provide all the proof of transfer needed to satisfy the Bank too.
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Ralph *******
I think you should look around to see which country is paying the most.
Magnus ******************
Just buy a indexfond.
Steve *******
Invest it in the UK. Better return than Thailand plus the exchange rate is pretty low at the moment.
the rate is indeed low, THB is extrenely expensive, it is up over 12 percent in half a year, and the worrying thing almost every week you gel less for your money.
I just wonder where this ends.
Thai stock only goes down, so since stock market normally is a prediction of future economy, they expect economy to go down.
Very weird THB goes up in this situation.
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Paul ********
Definitely leave I it in the UK.
Tim ********
Put it into a high yield savings account currernt rate on wealthfront is 4% 200,000 x 4% =8000.00 yearly interest.
Steve *********
Leave in Uk bank put in interest account t that will pay into your current account each month, get a wise card. Open a wise bhat account, Keep eye on exchange rate and move money when rates good. Ie was 46.9 in July. Bow 41. ?
Will ************
I am can get 4.46% instant access in the UK. Minimum balance is £25k
So, I am assuming you can keep the account open even if you live in Thailand. Most of the banks I have spoken to in the UK state that you have to reside in the UK to get the account
yes well I use a friends address and they can see 3 times a week I use it to pay for my golf here and although I have only had it 9 months nobody has said anything. Maybe because I have nearly as much as you want to put in invested with them
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Sheree ********
Keep your money in your home land bank and then just get it sent to you monthly theough these online banks x
the interest rate is poor over here , and to be honest if you are not planning to settle here forever then I'd think about what you are bringing over as not easy to get it back out and home again. If it's not for investment over here (property or business) then I'd look at gold coins (no gains tax on coins) in the UK , a solid investment and continuous rises every year.
If you want investment over here , then look at a little plot and put a few rentals on it to give an income , or buy a condo and let it out.. all the best whatever you decide
Coop bank Regular Saver account. The downside is, you are only allowed to put in £250 pm max for 12 months. Go to MoneySavingExpert.com, lists all short term high interest accounts.
4.3 % doesn't even keep up with inflation and capital gains tax . The bank makes 12-15% as a fractured reserve . As the price of everything goes up he loses money every year.
Keep it simple and leave your money in your UK bank. Register with someone like Wise, who I've been using for years to transfer money to a Thai account. Then if you've got a retirement visa, or visa extension you can find out how to open a Thai bank account, add the account to your payees in your UK internet banking, then just transfer money from your UK account to your Thai account, as and when you need it. With Wise, two partner banks they have in Thailand are SCB & Kasikorn. With SCB if you transfer from the UK, SCB make a charge of 400 THB per transfer. I believe Kasikorn do not. Hope this helps, or at least gives you some guidance.
Well you'll get worse than that in Thailand. Also if you've got that much accessible money why don't you have a lot of it in twelve months ISA's or other deals that give you better than 1.6% return. Not trying to teach you how to suck eggs so to speak, but there are plenty in Thailand as well as the rest of the world that would love to relieve you of the stress of having £200,000 😆
George *******
Cary Dean Roger that, I wanted to transfer only 5250 GBP in 2013 from my Thai SCB account to my UK HSBC account. I was in a bank in a smallish town and although a bank official eventually figured out how to do the transaction, it was a long drawn out affair. Keep it simple and leave your money in your UK bank. Register with someone like Wise, who I've been using for years to transfer money to a Thai account. Then if you've got a retirement visa, or visa extension you can find out how to open a Thai bank account, add the account to your payees in your UK internet banking, then just transfer money from your UK account to your Thai account, as and when you need it. With Wise, two partner banks they have in Thailand are SCB & Kasikorn. With SCB if you transfer from the UK, SCB make a charge of 409 THB per transfer. I believe Kasikorn do not. Hope this helps, or at least gives you some guidance.
Just remember that you will also have to pay tax on anything you remit to Thailand 🇹🇭- if you spend 180 days or more here in a calendar year. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU HAVE ALREADY PAID TAX ON SAID FUNDS IN THE UK.
Just to let you know…
The new tax rules came into effect 1 January 2024.
If you do that in one hit you're looking at a circa £60k tax bill if the new tax measures happen. No interest rate is going to replace that so you're going to lose money. Invest it in a market tracker
be a good boy, I can see you do like me but I'm not going to spend any time with you. I'm not into old grumpy men. You give 1000baht to your wife and ask her to help satisfy your fantasies ;)
Check out the liquidity of the Thai big players, right up there with the rest. What was the last thai bank to go under? There have been many in the west
Banks all over the world are asking for this as it releases funds, that at the moment they have to set aside, so that it can be used for future investments,loans, business etc
are u still here whining? did your feeling get so hurt that you need to be offensive under every comment i post here? Do you really think that attacking my masculinity is going to make me mad at you? C'mon man, grow up. Get all of your energy for your kids when they'll ask how you've met their mother ;)