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How does the DTV visa work in Thailand if the course duration is only 6 months?

Feb 8, 2025
14 days ago
Ran ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
Soft Power - I see many people in this group getting it for all sorts of 6 months courses. I don't get it.

If the DTV is a 6 months visa(+extensions) for each entry for 5(!) years, how would they give it to you if your course is only 6 months ? what happen when you extend after 6 months, or enter again 2 years later ? "Hey sir, your course is over long ago.."
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The discussion revolves around the Digital Tourism Visa (DTV) in Thailand, which allows holders to stay for 6 months with the possibility of extensions. There are questions about the rationale behind granting long-term visas for short courses, such as Muay Thai training or culinary classes. Most responses suggest that while the DTV can be exploited for visa purposes, it was originally designed to boost tourism and promote Thai culture. Users debate the feasibility of continuous enrollment in courses, border runs to renew visas, and the evolving regulations regarding proof of ongoing participation in the activities. Overall, the consensus is that the DTV operates largely on leniencies that might change over time.
DTV VISA RESOURCES / SERVICES
Waqar ******
Why to spend money on more courses when you can book a motorcycle go to Cambodia and come back next day. Do that every six month and enjoy 5 years btw don’t forget to thank me
Doug **********
Don't think about it to much, its Thailand.

Just play the game and get another course..

How many cooking courses or mai thai course would it take you to be the best in the world? Maybe 5 years is not long enough
Ran ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Doug *********
actually because it's Thailand, i don't think they will let you have another course or just change the rules. In that case i wonder if I shouldn't go for the course but the business option.
David ***********
Correct, OP doesn’t get it. He misunderstands the purpose of the DTV visa which is to help promote the tourist industry and economy at-large. Border-bounce every 180 days and you’re good.
Chad ********
Best not to apply logic to Immigration rules or assume the written rules match actual practice.
Federico **********
And they reject people with businesses
David ********
You need to consider why the visa was created not just the conditions for yourself. The concept was created originally for digital nomads there were so many staying in Thailand so it made life easy for them and created a boost to Thai economy. But it was launched with soft power options not to help the person coming to Thailand but the industry that they wished it support Muay Thai,cooking class and also medical treatment including dental. This DTV has exceeded expectations for Thailand's economy. So do you think Thailand government is happy of course do you think they will stop DTV don't think so. It only immagration officers that are pissed off because it is stopping then receiving kick backs when people do border runs for 60 days.
Luit *****************
@David *******
Do you have figures of how they expected the economy boosted by DTV and how much it actually was influenced, or are you just guessing?

To me it looks pretty difficult to measure the gains.
David ********
@Luit ****************
are you a regular here. It's not difficult how many people are getting this visa. It's not the money for the application that is peanuts. Anyone who knows anything about economics can measure this. If you get a DTV what is the flow on effect. Just consider accomodation,food,utilities ,entertainment for each person. This visa has been a massive success. Look at the downturn since covid across the world. Who has any strategy to recoup the loss since then Thailand. Be sinical if you like typical farang but Thai are laughing all the way to the bank with influx of people applying especially digital nomads they earn forieng money and spend in Thai. Soft power is minimal
Luit *****************
@David *******
As I look regular here, I see most people applying for the visa are already living in Thailand, so they are not boosting the economy.

But since you say it can be easily measured, please come with reliable figures, and not just shouting it is a success, because your assumptions look wrong to me.

Everybody here is asking for soft power as cheap as possible, and has problems to keep 500K as financial reserve.

That is not the kind of people you want to attract to your country if you want to boost your economy.
David ********
@Luit ****************
look at my post again you are stuck on your opinion. MOFA have figures search yourself. It's attracted people that work online from many countries mostly families. Look at the people asking questions and being successful here. Anyway you have your mindset. You think Thai government is stupid 555
Luit *****************
@David *******
Please give a link to the figures, you seem to know where they are.

I think it is impossible to have them, because nobody knows how much more a few DTV holders spend in Thai economy.

I have a DTV, but I did spend much more in Thai economy before I got the visa.

In the 2 years before I had DTV I brought in about 5M, since I have DTV it is less than 200K.

How would anybody get this in figures if people are not asked what they spend.
David ********
@Luit ****************
I have spoken to you before you are very narrow minded person and have your opinion and you never change. Talk enough to you crazy farang
David ********
@Luit ****************
it's not about spend it's about how many come in in this visa. Spend is an estimate you are looking through a small hole comparing yourself. You are saying a few DTV holders it's not a few when l got mine there were more than 200 hundred others picking up. That's one day
Derry *********
Aside from all the people who are using MT to get a visa don't forget there is a huge community of active muay thai students and fighters who the government consider quality tourists as they are studying a thai culture.

In the past some of those dedicated MT students would be chased out of Thailand for staying too long as a tourist. I think the government is trying to address this issue and as a muay thai gym owner we welcome it.
Rio ******
@Derry ********
Where is your gym?
Sean *******
My advice is to get the visa now. Before they start putting in the remarks of the visa what you applied under and the dates of the course. Then you will be screwed. 😂
Andy ************
@Sean ******
It's still a five year visa
Sean *******
@Andy ***********
I know mate. But Luit the Dutch fella will be here soon banging on about the computer SYSTEM. Saying it even knows what colour under crackers you have on.
Luit *****************
@Sean ******
make fun of it, but I can assure you they don't just throw away the info you send with your application, It is foolish to think that they only keep the information on your visa itself.
Paul *******
@Sean ******
The same dude who is adamant all countries are supposed to confiscate your driver's license when going for a driver's license in another jurisdiction. In fact, this only happens when you're applying for a driver's license in another state or province in countries with federal system of government and maybe the EU. It's not something the average country does.
Luit *****************
@Paul ******
Who told anything about confiscate, that is what you keep telling.

I only say there are internationally rules agreed about exchange driver licenses, just as there agreements about acceptance of IDP, but Paul James just thinks he knows everything better, but he cannot explain why he should know better.There is no evidence that he has any additional professional knowledge in this area
Sascha **********
If we’re talking about becoming really good at either Muay Thai or cooking, yes that takes years and years of practice, gaining experience and honing skills. Just because the initial course is 6 months, doesn’t mean you stop doing this activity after that. I can imagine in the future that for example a stage at a Thai restaurant would be acceptable as proof of continuing activity. The soft power version of this visa was implemented to promote Thai culture and that’s exactly what it does.

Is it easy to abuse this by ‘just’ booking a few months and then doing border runs? For now yes, going forward, time will tell 🤷🏻‍♀️
George *******
@Sascha *********
I agree about the Thai culture thing, but I presume some people that enrol on this, they do it for one of two reasons. 1. To keep fit. 2. Two for access to getting the DTV visa. The keep fit and/or competing why would you go to all the expense of travelling and getting setup in Thailand, when there are Muay Thai or the other name it's known by in Western countries, kick boxing. So number one reason for applying on the basis of doing MT., seems at least to me, to being used for getting the visa. Just my opinion. Also the climate for extreme exercise as opposed to a country with a much cooler climate seems a bit drastic.
George *******
@Sascha *********
personally I prefer swimming with sharks, they only have teeth to attack with
Sascha **********
@George ******
as someone who switched from kickboxing to Muay Thai I can tell you they are absolutely not the same sport 😉 and it is very difficult to find genuine, authentic Muay Thai gyms in Europe (where indeed kickboxing is the more popular sport).

But I agree that probably a lot of people are signing up for gyms and cooking classes just to get the visa. If they ever start checking continuous activity at borders, these people are going to be scr*wed 😏
George *******
@Sascha *********
ok, you learn something everyday, I always thought kicking was the same in TM as kickboxing.
Elías ********
It has not much logical sense, but it is the way it is. A single few weeks course or a single medical appointment has been enough for some people to get the DTV. It seems they're becoming a bit stricter over time, tho.
Ran ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
a single medical appointment? i see here people said you need 6 months. I just wonder what happens if its not "enough" ? you basically bet the whole flight tickets and payments and all the mess to get a no?
Luit *****************
@Ran *****
most of the medical treatments are also doable on simple tourist visa, so the tickets and eventually advanced payments for the treatmen are not lost.
Elías ********
@Ran *****
each application is processed and granted by a different Embbasy. Each one has very different rules and requirements, not only in relation to medical appointments. For example, some demand you have had the money for xx months. Some, notably Malaysia, demands you to have a long term (at least 6 months) lease in Thailand, or they won't grant the visa. Some demand you to be a resident of the country you're applying at, etc.
Anonymous ******************
@Elías *******
how does it work for medical? I've seen few comments but nobody has made a detailed report about DTV for medical yet
Julien *********
Anonymous participant 266 I posted my review few days ago. Search for my name in the group. I gave a lot of details. By the way for medical, it must be 6 months minimum of care (medical or dental work). You can arrange you with your doctor/dentist to give you a schedule on 1 year easily. It's medical/dental, so you need time for your body to recover.
Anna *********
@Julien ********
some have been approved with a great deal less than 6 months of care
Julien *********
@Anna ********
that's what my visa agent told me so 🤷
Anna *********
@Julien ********
that doesn’t make it true for all applications There are huge differences across all the countries
Anna *********
Anonymous participant 266 there are loads of detailed posts about medical and dental from months of appointments to a single one
Elías ********
Participante anónimo 266 there are a lot of detailed reports on medical here in the group. I applied for the remote work category, tho.
Andy ************
Sign up with another course? There's no limit
Ran ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Andy ***********
yea till they say "no".
Andy ************
@Ran *****
You really have no idea do you? 😂
Sean *******
@Ran *****
Who says no?
Sean *******
OMB. It's getting asked everyday now. Nowhere in the application process does it say you need to book courses for 5 years to keep your visa valid. Just think how easy it would be for them to say it, but they don't.
Wayne *********
@Sean ******
most of what gets posted is just repeating questions, people lack the brains to use the search and spend some time reading
Chris *******
Yes, as long as you do border bounces you will not have to prove anything

(As of now anyway).

If you were to try and extend in country the rules are different and proofs will be asked for.

So just leave and come back, no issues for 5 years.

It is a stimulus visa aimed at people coming and going.
Anna *********
It’s a valid visa so until it changes I guess ( like you are) that you will be stamped in for 180 days 🤣