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What does a Red Stamp on a SETV Visa mean and how will it affect future visa applications?

Nov 2, 2019
5 years ago
Claudio *********
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SETV Visa with Red Stamp: what does it mean in true? The stamp write "may resul" use the conditional, not the imperative. How many chances are there to get another SETV after this stamp?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A Red Stamp on a SETV visa signifies potential problematic immigration history, suggesting that the individual may have a challenging time obtaining another tourist visa from the same consulate or country. Responses indicate that acquiring another SETV after receiving this stamp is unlikely, and a new passport may mitigate issues with consulate applications but not necessarily resolve problems noted in the immigration database at borders. Visitors are encouraged to seek appropriate long-term visas, such as work or education visas, rather than relying on tourist visas.
James ********
I received this suggestion from a member after commenting closed:

"Hi James, just a thought on this now closed post. Perhaps it may have been useful to suggest that the OP can extend his current visa +30. Then he can roll the dice again with a border run, which with another roll of the dice extend that. This will take him into next year. Roll the dice by land to Penang and return by train. If visa refused, he'll will likely be able to enter by land for 30 days + 30. I know it's not guaranteed or advised but is possible."

Thank you for the suggestion...it just may work for the OP.

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Claudio *********
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Thank you everybody for the answers. So, if a do a border run, will be ok? I done only one border run this year.
James ********
@Claudio ********
I received this suggestion from a member after commenting closed:

"Hi James, just a thought on this now closed post. Perhaps it may have been useful to suggest that the OP can extend his current visa +30. Then he can roll the dice again with a border run, which with another roll of the dice extend that. This will take him into next year. Roll the dice by land to Penang and return by train. If visa refused, he'll will likely be able to enter by land for 30 days + 30. I know it's not guaranteed or advised but is possible."

Thank you for the suggestion...it just may work for the OP.

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James ********
@Claudio ********
no guarantee of success. Good Luck. Commenting closed.
Tod *********
@Claudio ********
, you're done using that consulate (or even another consulate in that country) to get a new tourist visa.
Ivan ************
Historically, this stamp means you categorically will not get another tourist visa in the same consulate or usually the same country. It's not conditional, if you get this that's the last tourist visa from that consulate. No more.

Historically it has not affected tourist visas in a different consulate, but I think that is changing and some consulates will now take note of such a stamp even from another consulate.

It has not historically and I think probably still doesn't affect applications for another type of visa, ie. you could switch to an Ed visa. Historically even at the same consulate that gave you the stamp. With the caveat that some consulates are getting difficult with Ed visas.

It is only in your passport, there isn't yet a database, so new passport fixes it vis a vis the consulates. New passport doesn't change Thai immigrations record at the border but that is a separate issue.

For sure there is a general tightening up with everything.
Jan **********
so that's historically x 4.
Christina ********
I’ve got the same with my second SETV in Vientiane. After this I’ve got ED visa in Ho Chi Minh and wasn’t asked any questions in airport. But I think it was just a great luck.
James ********
Christina Palvin yep...very lucky. And these days its likely HCMC would not have issued the Ed Visa.
James ********
Background...

As you got a SETV at Vientiane in March 2019...and now got another SETV from ??? ...your home country.

I doubt you will obtain another from Laos. You have a new passport but that will not fool Thai Immigration.

Good Luck...

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Benjamin ******
It'ss a sign that you need to get the proper visa for your stay. Second, a new passport may let you get another visa, but will not reset immigration databases at the border, who decides if you get in.

My advice is to use the next 60 days to either find a job to get a non-b, get a non-o for marriage or retirement, an elite if you have at least 500K, an investment visa if you have 10M, or an ED visa for a university degree (NOT a language school). If you can't get any of those visas, then use the next 90 days to wrap up your affairs here.

Good luck
Benjamin ******
Ross Wood. Thailand only likes long term tourists who can purchase an elite visa. Otherwise, after 9 months, it becomes a dice roll
Benjamin ******
Ross Wood - for him to stay here, he must find the right visa. How do you propose he stay here further?
Ross ******
@Benjamin *****
For gods sake stop with the ‘get a proper visa’ crap. You know nothing about this guy. It’s not constructive and you know full well that some people have no alternative. Everyone on tourist visas knows the risks by now and don’t need muppets like you telling them to get a proper visa or wrap up their affairs in Thailand!! Who the hell do you think you are?
Ivan ************
For sure they are tightening up across the board. Just to give clarity on what is what right now.
Benjamin ******
You're right, the stamp isn't connected to the immigration database. However, immigration is the place you have to go through to get into Thailand. Most borders are getting strict. AT BEST, I would assume he can get 2 more visa exampt by land and another tourist visa before he is blocked from entering Thailand. My advice remains the same - if he's living here, prepare to move out.
Ivan ************
There is no particular relation of that stamp to what is in immigration's database at the border. They are not connected. They are two independent things.

I get the idea that anyone who gets that stamp likely does have a history in the immigration database, but that is true whether they got the stamp or not. Whether the immigration database matters at all or not depends where you enter- right now, it matters at airports, in Bangkok in particular. It doesn't seem to matter at all at most land borders.
Ivan ************
That stamp isn't recorded in immigration's database, it's just in the passport. A new passport fixes it.
Stewart ***************
I have a blue stamp and was refused an ed visa. I don't think you will get a visa anywhere. I may be wrong, a new passport is the way forward I think. Good luck
James **************
Or get a new passport, the embassies are not linked up to the immigration computers yet.
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@Claudio ********
i dont think that matters, its a big warning sign for embassies not to issue you one. You can try another embassy, but dont use the same one. I dont think a time frame will come into it if they see that stamp
Claudio *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
My passport is still new. After get this stamp, is forever until the passport expire or get new one, or have a time frame after which can go same embassy without problems?
James **************
Pretty slim, try a different embassy next time.
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