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How is the $80k passive income determined for the LTR wealthy pensioner visa in Thailand?

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Jan 16, 2025

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I am looking into the LTR wealthy pensioner visa but can't find how they determine the $80k passive income. Is this income pre or post tax? If you have income which is tax free say from ISA's do you ( if the passive income is pre tax) add on the tax that would have been paid when demonstrating the $80 k income? I am unsure how you treat a pension income which is pre tax and other income which either post or no tax?

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The determination of the $80k passive income requirement for the LTR wealthy pensioner visa in Thailand is based on gross (pre-tax) income. It includes sources like pensions, interest, dividends, and rental income. Applicants should directly consult the BOI for specific income guidelines and what qualifies as acceptable passive income. There may be changes regarding this income threshold, including potential reforms if certain investment conditions are met.

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This is from 8 mos ago but good overview....

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Marty *********

It is pre-tax passive income. What they accept as passive income is something you will have to ask the BOI. You can apply online and present your various passive income sources. Once they start working on your application they will ask questions. There is no fee until your application is accepted.

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Andy **********

There are changes afoot. The $80k income requirement may be abolished if you meet an investment threshold. Cabinet approves easing of conditions for long-term resident visas

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no change for the LTR Wealthy Pensioner, that's for the LTR Wealthy Global Citizen

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You don't know what the final changes will be. One can choose to be a wealthy global citizen or a wealthy pensioner, if one has enough moolah. Its an artificial distinction. And the Thai definition of a OAP doesn't match most Western definitions.

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it's not an artificial distinction. If you want to invest 500k in Thailand you can be wealthy citizen and don't need to show income anymore. The wealthy pensioner has no such requirement to invest so is a much better option

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Jim ********

It’s gross (before taxes) passive income. Pensions, interest/dividends, rental income etc.

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Ruud ******************

correct

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Graeme ******

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in the uk i have stocks and shares within a tax exempt wrapper with the dividends paid into my account quarterly (no tax paid) do I add the uk tax onto these dividends for the purpose of the LTR ?

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Jim ********

no you wouldn’t add no existent taxes…use the example before to explain your income. It must all be passive income you can’t claim any wages.

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Graeme ******

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it is passive income not wages i am retired income comes from taxable pension and a number of other passive investments, it's a mixture of taxed and tax exempt passive income

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Brandon ************

The BOI is the one who makes all the determinations and they are very responsive to questions. Suggest you reach out to them directly with any questions you have b

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@Brandon ***********

do you have an email.or web address? Thx

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@Brandon ***********

thanks yes I have sent them an email

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