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What tax implications should I be aware of as a German expat after obtaining a DTV in Thailand?

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Feb 21, 2025

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German potatoe on the hunt for information regarding tax situation. 🤞

Hey everybody. I applied for the DTV from Germany and didn’t hear anything back for about 10 days. Then the embassy asked for a picture taken by a photographer and copy (not picture) of the passport. When I submitted these everything went smoothly and quick and my DTV got approved. 💜

Now I’m asking myself - regarding taxes. Anybody from Germany with knowledge in the field?

I get the point that your tax resident if you stay more than 180 days but I’m looking for consultant or lawyer from Germany who can give advice AND people who’ve been through the process and can give information about their experience.

Thank you folks and happy DTV-ing. ☀️

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The user, having successfully obtained a DTV (Digital Nomad Visa) from Germany, is seeking information on tax obligations in both Germany and Thailand. Key points raised include the potential tax residency if staying over 180 days in Thailand, the significance of the DTA between Germany and Thailand, and the importance of consulting with tax professionals or expat groups for tailored guidance. Other comments suggest staying registered in Germany while navigating Thai tax requirements.

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Dany ********

Read the DTA. you pay tax in germany. you might get a thai tax id from the RD and can fill some forms next year but you wont be taxed again… both countries claim tax residency for you and then the DTA comes into play. it should be no issue at all… stay registered in germany and nothing else to do. everything else is fearmongering or overdoing things.

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Milla ******

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thank you so much 🙏 so the rd will just contact me next year, I don’t have to do anything in advance or whatsoever?

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Milla ******

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okay, thank you. Let’s see what’s gonna happen. Just would be happy to have some clarity and base my decisions on that - it’s in the German genes 🥲

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Greg ********

Not to worry - it is confusing for many people how this will all work out. It falls between the two extremes of the sky is falling and everyone must pay taxes in Thailand or be shot to the other extreme of nothing will ever happen so ignore everything. I suspect it will be something in between. The new rules regarding remitted earnings into Thailand all being assessable started for 2024. Already, the govt are talking about changing this as less money has been remitted. At the moment, a DTV holder should watch and wait unless it is your home country making you make a decision over Tax Residence.

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Greg ********

Up to now the Thai Revenue Department does not contact you. The onus has been on you to contact them. Will this change in the future? Nobody can say

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Dnatjugweme ************

Oh and BTW, the situation is still very unclear. Some people who are tax-liable in Thailand have asked for a TIN, but they could not get one for some reason.

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Dnatjugweme ************

If you're a freelancer/sole proprietor and obtained the DTV on this ground, then you probably can't 'unregister' yourself in Germany (and thus become non-resident in Germany) - otherwise you won't have a business any longer to be able to write invoices.

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Milla ******

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@Dnatjugweme ***********

thank you 🙏 I’m employed so have not to deal with this :)

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Markus ********

I have consulted my tax office, the tax office of my German employer (I am a remote worker) and a German-speaking tax consultant in Thailand. ✌️

In which category do you use the DTV?

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@Markus *******

thank you Markus much appreciated. Will contact you in private 🙃

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and what was the result?

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Markus ********

As I expect to spend more than 183 days in Thailand 2025, I will become a tax resident there. I have therefore been able to agree a ‘Freistellung des Arbeitslohns vom Steuerabzug’ with my employer's tax office.

There is a form for this, simply called

"Antrag für unbeschränkt einkommensteuerpflichtige Arbeitnehmer auf Erteilung einer Bescheinigung über die Freistellung des Arbeitslohns vom Steuerabzug auf Grund eines Abkommens zur Vermeidung der Doppelbesteuerung"

As I have given up my place of residence in Germany, I will be subject to unlimited income tax for the last time in 2025, the year of my departure.

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@Markus *******

you can do that sure. i believe according to the DTA you can also just pay the tax in germany and would not have to pay in thailand. both countries claim tax residency for you and then there is like 4 deciding factors written in the DTA which in our cases usualy are in favor of germany and to pay tax there. article 4 (maybe also 5).

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Markus ********

Yes. However, I prefer taxation according to Thai law. That was the basis for my decisions.

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Raed ****

you need you change your status from resident to non resident in Germany before you leave Germany

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Greg ********

The Thai German Expat FB groups are probably best place to ask for accountants and tax questions. German Chamber of Commerce too.

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