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What are the advantages of the Digital Nomad Visa (DTV) compared to traditional tourist visas for long-term stay in Thailand?

Feb 21, 2025
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Jonathan *********
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This may seem like a stupid question, but what is the advantage of the DTV over simply playing the visa extension and border bounce game. It gets one to 180 days before needing to fly out and back again. Is this a new and expensive replacement for that process? I honestly don’t know because I’ve lived in Thailand for the past 5 years on a Non-Immigrant B visa.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The Digital Nomad Visa (DTV) offers significant advantages over traditional tourist visas and the border bounce method for expats in Thailand. It allows for longer stays (up to 180 days, extendable for 5 years), provides legal grounds for remote work, and reduces the risks associated with frequent border crossings, which have become stricter. In contrast to the tourist visa, which can lead to denial of entry after repeated border bounces, the DTV inherently allows for multi-entry and does not categorize being a remote worker as illegal. While initially more costly than the visa extension and bounce process, the DTV is viewed as a more stable and hassle-free option for long-term residents.
DTV VISA RESOURCES / SERVICES
Falconer **
It's a scam
Jackie ********
To get video coverage to draw people to Thailand and spend money for classes- yoga, language, cooking.

Positive coverage & attract money.
Martyn **********
I been here 90 days traveling, flew out to Vietnam and came back in after a week away..

Got abit sticky at the airport to say the least. Wanting to see booked flights home, travel arrangements for Loas where I am traveling to next (which I hadn't organized yet) and all sorts of questions🙈

Honestly didn't think was gonna get let back in🤯
Sean *******
@Martyn *********
Where did you get your DTV?
Martyn **********
@Sean ******
no dtv just tourist visa.

They said if staying for 90 days at a time, I should really spend
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weeks out of Thailand before returning.

Women at initial desk was horrible, rude and didn't want me to be able to re-enter.

Luckily the man who assisted me after was friendly and explained the
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week thing and let me in
Lewey ************
- You can legally work remotely without having to pay taxes in the country

- You can stay six month or one year with an extension. It's better to stay 6 months than 2 months and having to apply for an extension to get 30 more days

- You can come and go as you please, there's no special rule or restriction (tourists have to book an outbound flight). That means you can base yourself in Thailand and travel as much as you want in and out without any impact on your visa status. You can't really do that as a tourist.

All in all it brings you peace of mind. You don't need to worry about visa run and whether you'll be denied entry.
Michael ********
Frequent visa extensions and border runs waste a ton of time and fair bit of money. The DTV saves you time and money. It also guarantees your entries a lot better than a regular tourist visa. There are plenty of people that have border bouncesdfor a while , but plenty have came across issues one day. It works for 90 days, maybe 180, but do you really want to do that for years? Of course if you’re not committed to 5 years, a tourist visa + 30 extension is an excellent choice. After that though if you’re thinking long term the DTV is a lot more secure and better choice.
Steve *******
After 2 of those border bounce methods, most people get denied entry. You're not supposed to live in Thailand on a tourist visa or visa exemption, and they are cracking down on it even harder than before.

This is Thailand, though, so of course there are ways to pay your way around that. But the DTV costs way less and gives you headache free entries for 5 years.
Joe *******
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Ashi ********
Because it is not ok to live here full time on border bounces and extensions which will most definitely add up to a lot more than 10k baht with a once a year bounce and extension over the 5 years. It is ok to live here full time on the DTV, no questions on entry because it is multiple entry, that’s the point.
Ashi ********
My DTV is approved on my remote work, so it also allows me to work legally in Thailand, visa exempt does not.
Jonathan *********
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@Ashi *******
I’m starting to wonder if being a contract travel consultant will qualify…
Ivan ************
@Jonathan ********
if you're currently working on a non B you wouldn't qualify for a DTV, for what you're on your employer needs to be inside Thailand while for the DTV your employer needs to be very specifically not inside Thailand. Unless it's a job you can switch the employer to one outside Thailand, then DTV would be an option.
Jonathan *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Ivan ***********
Thank you. If I was currently riding on a Non-B Visa I wouldn’t be here inquiring about the DTV, would I?
Ivan ************
@Jona****
just going off what you posted: "I’ve lived in Thailand for the past 5 years on a Non-Immigrant B visa." People have switched from non-immigrant to DTV, depending on circumstance DTV may be a better fit for them.
Jonathan *********
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@Ivan ***********
yeah, I’ve lived here for the last 11 years with just a short 9 month break back in the States that was a real eye opener!
Ashi ********
@Jonathan ********
if you can provide a certificate of employment stating that your work is done remotely then yes
Ashi ********
I am an independent contractor but they still gave me a COE saying that
Jason *******
If you stay in Thailand 180 days a year or less then you still ok with visa exempt and DTV isn't required, if you living here and border bounce and stay longer than 180 days per year then you need a visa, as others has said it's not as easy as before living here on back to back visa runs and will get questioned
Andrew ********
Wait until the DTVers get slapped with a Thai Language and Culture request from authorities....

You have been doing a course for 12 months but you can't communicate in basic Thai...
Henrik *****
Thai language course on DTV are turned down by most Embassies, or given a ED visa.

But can be an advantage
Henrik *****
Greg ********
@Andrew *******
Not many DTVs doing Thai language

Might be asked to whip up a Pad Thai though
Jonathan *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg *******
I could do that! Don’t forget the pickled daikon!
Greg ********
@Jonathan ********
I love that pickle. Get one with Yuzu added. It is magnificent
Dave *****
@Andrew *******
I’m a slow learner though 😅
Jonathan *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Andrew *******
that would only be for those taking a language course, in which case they would be in the country in an education visa
John *****
Long long ago, people lived in Thailand for years on visa exempt border runs. You could get a bank account no questions asked. I got an O visa simply by saying I was visiting friends and submitting a guarantee letter from my parents who are English and live in England. At some point around 2005, an agent was caught taking people's passports on border runs. Fast forward to now.....
Aaron *******
Get to stay 180 days, without hassles, cost and risks of 2 extensions and a border bounce. And with one extension or re-entry your up to 360 days. Valid for 5 years, for $400 it wasn't even a debate.
Andrew *******
It is basically a replacement for that constant bouncing in and out and for people who don’t fit in to any other visa etc. Although, you won’t be playing the system and you won’t have issue as you would with constant playing the bouncing game
Alicia ********
They’re stopping border runs. 2+ and can be denied. And not just denied but legally forced to fly home is possible.
Henrik *****
The 2 time rule also got removed
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2024, when switched to 60 days, and DTV was introduced.
Alicia ********
@Henrik ****
well then why are people not being allowed because 2000 people got told they were unable to do it again recently
Henrik *****
Now they can reject you allready on your second attempt, but most will get a warning first, to get a proper visa next time.

Only it you don’t take notice of the warning you will be denied entry.

Counted in days it is almost the same. (30 + 30 times 3) or ( 60 + 30 times 2 )
Tod *********
What you're not gonna do anymore is live here (long term) on 60 day free entry stamps w/30 day extensions 😮

That was something you could do years ago, when it was 30 days by land or air but since July last year when they went to 60 days for 90+ countries they got a LOT harder about people living here on free stamp entries

I think last week between Don Muang and Suvarnabhumi they denied entry to close to 2000 people (which believe it or not is a super SMALL number compared to how many stamped in overall at those two airports) BUT for those people it sure ruined their day

You would probably get a couple bounces (especially if you used a service to take you to the border, bounce you out/back because they grease the wheel so you can get back in)

BUT

trying to do it yourself you'll find much sooner than later you'll get pulled aside, asked WTF you think you're doing living here on free stamps, told in no uncertain terms to find a visa and/or just denied entry outright and shipped back to where you flew in from on your dime.

It ain't the thailand of years ago, where you could live here milking free stamp entries
Jonathan *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Tod ********
But are multi-entry tourist visas still obtainable at the consulates in Vientiane or down in Malaysia?
Tod *********
@Jonathan ********
for the 6 month METV you have to LIVE long term legally in the country whose thai consulate you're applying thru <- meaning for most people you apply at the thai consulate in your home country BEFORE you wing your way here
Arnold *****
@Tod ********
Did my first bounce ever and they told me to get a visa next time.
Paul *******
@Tod ********
you are absolutely correct this happened to me as well.

Good advice and post.

Thanks
Alessandro ***********
@T**
this happened to me. After they switched. I got 2 more entries. And was then told very clearly if I didn’t have a visa next time it would be a big problem.
Rob *******
(As a Tourist) It all depends on how often you intend to go Thailand & how long for.

My next trip will be roughly 6-12 Months, It will work out cheaper for me to do Border runs & extensions.
Abbey *****
@Rob ******
they are getting much stricter with border bounces. My husband and I got away with it for a year before getting a warning coming back from Vietnam that we’d need a visa next time. My brother came 6months after us and he only lasted about 6 months before being told the same thing-he had to go back to the US
Rob *******
@Abbey ****
I did 7 months last there last year when it was 30 days exempt on a one way ticker, i’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but if you know to grease the right palms it shouldn’t be an issue
James ********
@Rob ******
Good Luck 🍀 you will need it.
Marianne ********
Tourist visas and visa exemptions does not allow you to work in Thailand, not even remotely.

DTV allows you to work remotely, as long as your customers/clients are not Thai.

People are being questioned more when they bounce around a lot on regular tourist visas and visa exemptions, and a lot are being denied entry because Immigration thinks they are trying to stay long term on them.
Quinton *********
If you are a remote worker then this visa explicitly allows for this in Thailand. This visa also cuts down on the number of border bounce as stuff can happen..
Dave *****
So far I haven’t found any apart from the much longer stay. It’s a glorified tourist visa. For the price, it’s still worth it.
Elías ********
On a tourist visa, I think in theory you're "not" allowed to work from Thailand as a remote worker. On the DTV you can, yo sou can go saying out loud you work from Thailand. But, the most important thing, many countries were (and aren't still) elegible for 60-day visa exempt entry, so for us (my country of citizenship is one of those) it is indeed a game-changer. Also, expensive? Nah, like US$300 for a 5 year multi-entry visa? Very cheap, actually.
Jonathan *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Elías *******
yea, that is cheap, but you have to have $15,000 in a Thai bank, don’t you?
Elías ********
@Jonathan ********
I don't have it on a Thai bank account. I don't even have a Thai bank account. I applied having the money on my home country bank.
Jonathan *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Elías *******
I have a Thai bank account
Elías ********
@Jonathan ********
I mean, you can get the visa if you have the equivalent to 500K bath either on a Thai bank account or another country, doesn't need to be a Thai account. And well, requiring to have that money in a bank account seems like a reasonable condition.
Matthew *************
Cam ********
@Jonathan ********
doesn’t have to be in a Thai account
Raphael ********
@Jonathan ********
that’s not a problem to the majority of the population
Henrik *****
@Raphael *******
Then you don’t know about the majority of the population.
Jonathan *********
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@Raphael *******
Are you being a classist snob?
Raphael ********
@Jonathan ********
well, my friend if you do not have the 15k in bank i suggest that you do not come in Thailand and instead work more. This should be your Priority
Jonathan *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Raphael *******
oh, I have the money in my bank you classist $&@*, I’ve worked for over 8 years in Thailand.